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Tan Chuan-Jin admits: Inflow of foreign workers could have been better ‘calibrated’

Posted by temasektimes on August 17, 2012

The relentless influx of foreign workers over the years have been a point of contention among many Singaporeans as they have led to stagnant wages and rampant inflation and it is only now that the government realized that it may have made a ‘mistake’ after all.

On hindsight, the inflow of foreign workers could have been better ‘calibrated’, admits Acting Manpower Minister Tan Chuan-Jin in a posting on his Facebook.

However, Mr Tan was quick to warn that “the tightening of foreign manpower should be at a pace that enables Singapore to grow in a sustainable way, yet protects the people’s interest.”

Foreigners now made up 40 percent of Singapore’s population. Of the remaining 60 percent who are ‘Singaporeans’, an increasing number are born overseas.

Despite repeated reassurances by government leaders that they are ‘moderating’ the inflow of foreigners, they appear to be still coming to Singapore in large numbers as native Singaporeans increasingly find themselves being marginalized in their own country of birth.

 

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44 Responses to “Tan Chuan-Jin admits: Inflow of foreign workers could have been better ‘calibrated’”

  1. MT said

    It seems SG is the only country that has to confront with immigrants issue in the space of 2 generations. The first generation were make up of immigrants who come to SG in the 40s-50s. They settle their roots here but never quite integrated amongst the different cultures. Then comes PAP in the 60s trying to focus on nation building and integration. Finally when we are done with that successfully in the 80s, it lasted less than 2 decades. Now we are back to square one, having different fractions in the community. All these thanks to LHL’s open door policy without thinking through the integration aspects. He basically undo what his father so painstakingly achieved in the last 4 decades. Isn’t that just tragic?

  2. Piratetoon said

    You should only allow Work Permit for Building , Marine , Domestic Helper and Nursing. Please do away with the so call S Pass and EP . EP should be for those who can really enhance and create value added to our progress not those doing secretarial , customer service, telemarketer ,accounting , HR etc and those half past six IT personnel.

  3. spotlessleopard said

    What they do not tell you is that an increasing numbers of Singaporeans are leaving Singapore by the family load!….Ultimately Singapore will be populated by foreigners…We are losing our local talents and gaining many fake talents..from third world countries and East European Countries..

  4. newhik said

    Oh now our esteemed ministers are saying what the Opposition and the remaining 40% of Singaporeans have been saying fo the last 3-4 years…. Boy are they slow learners. Maybe too reliant on demographics and statistics to actually look at the ground.

    Although its the skeptic in me but whats the point of having a huge defense budget when we already have so many foreigners in Singapore. They have already invaded our homelands and what would stop them from colluding with their gahments in case of hostilities???

  5. lyv2dy said

    What we want to see are concrete steps taken by the Govt to address this urgent national issue, not more merely placating statements. Its almost one and a half years since last GE and virtually nothing has been done except more diatribe for us to accept this disastrous and most ill-conceived policy ever in the history of modern era Singapore.

  6. Naivety said

    I thought that bugger, TCJ had already been promoted to full Manpower Minister status as announced on Strait Times recently, why TT still address him as the Acting Manpower Minister in this article here?

  7. Playfair said

    I think its a little too late.Can send some back.Stop bringing in more.

  8. Populist said

    There are total more than 1 million foreign workers in Singapore. I think the economy need to shrink by more than 50% before we could purge all of them out of Singapore. In the process, many Singaporean will be badly hurt by high unemployment. Factories need to close down, hospitals need to be closed down (There are insufficient nurse and doctors as many of them are foreigners), Banks need to be closed down and etc. Singaporean must be able to pay the price if we need to kick all of them out of Singapore.

    • Think Smart said

      Very true! Only those who speak without brains will complain about FT but just cannot understand the consequences! Are they really ready to bite the bullet and pay the hefty price? No maids, no cleaners, no hotel chamber maids, no bank teller, no immigration officers, no construction workers. Then after that, property market collapse, many people homes are underwater, salary drop, unemployment rise to more than 20% like Europe, many people go bankrupt, homes get foreclosed and forced sell, HDB price collapse, so cheap but they still cannot afford to buy and complain again, because of unemployment and even lower wages than ever before. And who asked for it? Themselves! So live with the shit! Welcome to the 3million population Singapore! Your new home!

  9. Seems that it is a drug that Singapore now cannot live without!

  10. Populist said

    I think we should also stop building more HDB flats. Otherwise, we may need still need the foreigner workers to build them. I encourage Singaporean to stay in Johor Bahru. It is cheap and good.

    • stevenadosan said

      Very Good idea! Not only stay in Johor, also seek medical treatment in Johor.Everything are cheap because everything in singapore are expensive! Only cheap thing is singapore is MINISTERS’ TALK!!!!

  11. Thank for not denying Mr Tan Chuan-Jin ,,,and CCB PAP !

  12. i say what i think only... said

    just drop by MOM on a weekday office hour. i feel like the minority. i see such a large group of PRC of male and female, young and old. i thought is tour group leh… the leader almost must take flag to lead them around liao

  13. SkinFT said

    Mr. Tan dun think so hard. Enjoy your million dollars paycheck will you still can. In 5 years time, either you will be working like a slave for foreigners or you will betray your own country and work overseas like a slave as well.

    Either way, you will get fucked by us the 40%. good luck.

  14. realty check said

    How about doing something first like moderating the lopsided racial workforce that can be found at citibank & the neighbouring companies as well at CHANGI BUSINESS PARK. It would be a good place to start. Somewhere along the road, some or many of these companies have manipulated our system for their own benefit. So i hope when i sent a pax to CHANGI BUSINESS PARK in the near future, i will see a more balanced racial workforce. Of course, more Singaporean workforce that is.

    • Jefflyn said

      Totally agree!! I’ve been working in Changi Biz park for the past almost 3 years. I see the big change. When standchart, citibank start their operation here, I don’t feel I’m in Singapore anymore! Almost 90% of time when I take the lift, its obvious that I’m the only Singaporean in there. I encounter so many times of FT driving, they buy expensive cars .. but driving at dangerous style, or will be hogging the traffic. =( it might make us feel better if they have better etiquettes, but instead, the way they use the toilets, drive the car, crossing like its their own road, its sometimes making us feel a bit pissed off.

  15. Populist said

    No Choice Singapore never fuck hard enough to get more babies born. In the end, you will be fucked by foreigners and Singapore need to close shop lah.

  16. James said

    Like HDB rulings, ratio ruling keeps ask balanced for decades. NOW! Ratio is…………. even as the population

  17. Angrrrrrry citizen said

    With all due respect, mr acting (a.k.a. “wayang”) minister, fcuk you and your boss for massively importing foreign trash onto this Singaporean soil. What “calibrated”??? We don’t want calibrated, we want you to “castrate” the foreign trash import now!!!

    • Think Smart said

      Do you even have a brain?

    • Populist said

      Angry Citizen: If you don;t calibrate, then you just pay the price loh. Chase them out and be unemployed. Close down the hospitals lah. If there is an emergency, just be prepared to die half way through the journey to Johore Bahru.

  18. Singapore Cock said

    Think Smart and Populist are our FT…..

    • Populist said

      I am a Singaporean. I had did my national service at 3 SIR during Tiger Hong time (RSM Hong Seng Mak). That was during 1973 to 1975 in 3 SIR. I was from the Chinese Stream. Nantah had granted me admission to one of its faculty in 1975 which I had declined. My Singapore NRIC is S00145XXB

      • Naivety said

        Then WTF are u so blindly supportive of the PAP’s Policy of massively over importing in more than 2 Millions FTs/FWs onto our tiny Singapore island since 2005 thereby displacing & replacing many native Singaporeans of jobs especially ‘white collar jobs’???

        Do u think our small & tiny country here can accommodate upto a total population of 8 Millions or even 10 Millions people…tell me what is the total ideal number you have in mind???

        So naive & daft despite your advanced age, hope ur children, grandchildren and future descendants if u have any at all got replaced & displaced by FTs as well soonest!!!

      • Populist said

        Importing for foreign labor is the result of economic success not failure. Our unemployment rate is less than 3%. If you have unemployment rate of more than 20%, then you won’t need any foreign labor any more. Spain has unemployment rate of more than 50% for youth under 25 years old. UK and France also has unemployment rate of more than 20% for youth.

        If you chase away all of the foreign labor, our economy will most probably be collapsed. It is not a big issue for me as I have already reached financial freedom and has sufficient resources for retirement. I could not care a hood if unemployment rate is even more than 50% or the Singapore economic collapsed. However, I may worry for my next generation. If one day, some clowns take over the running of Singapore, for the future of my next generation, I will probably migrate to other countries with my family.

      • Naivety said

        @Populist, I believe you’re seriously quite naive & daft if you truly & seriously believe that Sinkapore’s latest unemployment rate is less 3% only!!!

        Does it ever occur to you that the actual unemployment rate was being stifled, suppressed, quelled, curtailed, manipulated & tweeked for political reasons just so that the Pro-Alien Party could relentlessly continue to mass import in Millions of FTs to settle down in Sinkapore & later convert them to PRs & new Citizens so that these people could inturn vote for them???

        Why do u think that politicians often like to obfuscate statistics & data to their advantage???

        Any credible audit checks conducted by reliable 3rd party to validate, certify, ratify & authenticate that the published unemployment rate of <3% in Sinkapore was indeed true & correct & computed/calculated correctly with same criteria used???

        And why am I seeing so many hundreds of thousands of unemployed native Singaporeans (source: transitioning.org) when the unemployment rate was widely reported & declared at a low figure of <3%(which is almost full employment status)?????

      • Populist said

        The Statistics department within the Ministry of Manpower produces Singapore labor statistics. It conform to the guideline set by the “International labour organization” and also the “International monetary Fund”. This is to ensure comparability of our statistics within all members countries of the “International labour organization”.
        Please watch the video from the following web-link

        http://www.mom.gov.sg/newsroom/Pages/HighlightsDetails.aspx?listid=124

        Understanding Statistics: Video Guide for the Layman
        Is Labour Market Statistics Greek to You?

      • Populist said

        Dr Tan Khee Giap is the Chair of Singapore National Committee for Pacific Economic Cooperation since 2008 said there are many volunteer employment in Singapore. He said “I know many of you don’t like foreign workers. But last year, 14.9 percent – without foreign workers, the construction sector, I think Singaporeans also don’t want to do. Waiters, waitresses, chambermaids – Singaporeans don’t want to be. But if you don’t have foreign workers like this year, then we cannot continue to have [GDP] growth. Look at last year, 112,000 jobs were created. Why are there still 50,000 Singaporeans who can’t find jobs? Some say skills mismatch, but some say because of overtime shift they don’t like, or because of the distance – all kinds of reasons, because of the social stigma. So now, this year I think the government will be able to bring in 150, 000 jobs, mainly in services. But if we can create 150, 000 jobs and our unemployment rate is still at 2.1 percent or 50, 000, then this is disgusting.

    • Populist said

      Dr Tan Khee Giap is the Chair of Singapore National Committee for Pacific Economic Cooperation since 2008 said there are many volunteer unemployment in Singapore. He said “I know many of you don’t like foreign workers. But last year, 14.9 percent – without foreign workers, the construction sector, I think Singaporeans also don’t want to do. Waiters, waitresses, chambermaids – Singaporeans don’t want to be. But if you don’t have foreign workers like this year, then we cannot continue to have [GDP] growth. Look at last year, 112,000 jobs were created. Why are there still 50,000 Singaporeans who can’t find jobs? Some say skills mismatch, but some say because of overtime shift they don’t like, or because of the distance – all kinds of reasons, because of the social stigma. So now, this year I think the government will be able to bring in 150, 000 jobs, mainly in services. But if we can create 150, 000 jobs and our unemployment rate is still at 2.1 percent or 50, 000, then this is disgusting.

      • Naivety said

        @Populist, if I’m not mistaken, u must be one of the MIWs or their cronies continuing to be super defensive & living in self-denial!!!

        Out of 112,000 jobs created in Sinkapore last year, 70% of these jobs went to Foreigners/FTs instead of Singaporeans just like in previous years as reported by Bloomberg (please check the news link below)!!!

        https://temasektimes.wordpress.com/2012/05/25/bloomberg-70-percent-of-jobs-created-in-singapore-went-to-foreigners-last-year/

        Even it is true that Sinkapore’s latest unemployment rate is at a low of 2.1% only??? (almost full employment status), the total unemployed Singaporeans cannot be just only 50,000 as Singapore total workforce is more than 3 Mil!

        U cronies is trying to distort & misrepresent the whole picture by being ultra defensive & super self-denial, please do not anyhow “gasek buta & tikam tikam” over here as we are not in a fun-fare or carnival mood!!!

        Please do not fark with our lives & ultimately we will show you the consequences come GE 2016!!!

      • Populist said

        @Naivety: So what specific measures you have in mind to cut down the foreign labour? Stop building HDB flats or close down some hospitals so as to repatriate them from Singapore.

      • Populist said

        @Naivety: Please note that when there were 110,000 vacancies created and when there are only 50,000 unemployed Singaporean, of course more than 54% of the vacancies would go to foreigners even 100% of the Singaporean accepted the positions. (Highly unlikely when you know that there might be some mismatched of skills against job vacancies).
        Please watch the video from the following web-link if you think that that there are any distortion of the unemployment figures.

        http://www.mom.gov.sg/newsroom/Pages/HighlightsDetails.aspx?listid=124
        Understanding Statistics: Video Guide for the Layman
        Is Labour Market Statistics Greek to You?.

        You could fark with your own lives if you chose some clown to run the Singapore Government. It does not bother me as I am financially so well off that even the Singapore economy collapsed, I will not be affected by it.

    • Populist said

      Transitional Org is being run by a person call Gilbert Goh. According to what I know he has had only completed his Pre-university education at Swiss Cottage. He does not have any degree at all. I don’t think he is qualified to make such statements. How could such a person said that our statistics were stifled, suppressed, quelled, curtailed, manipulated & tweaked for political reasons. In fact, Gilbert Goh is a member of NSP. Therefore, it is likely that he has political agenda behind his statements. He is politically motivated and wishes to gain political mileage from people like you.

      I have a friend working in Deference Science Organization (DSO) as a Programme Manager. He is looking for an Engineer, due to the secretive nature of the project, he could only employ Singaporean. However, most candidates who come and apply during the career fair were foreigners. If any of you are keen, please provide me with your E-mail address, so that he could able to contact you.

  19. Populist said

    I am a Singaporean. I had did my national service at 3 SIR during Tiger Hong time (RSM Hong Seng Mak). That was during 1973 to 1975 in 3 SIR. I was from the Chinese Stream. Nantah had granted me admission to one of its faculty in 1975 which I had declined. My Singapore NRIC is S00145XXB

  20. Populist said

    I came from a Baba family. My Mother does not has any Chinese name. The name shown in her NRIC is Virginie Tan.

  21. Kimosabe said

    Please lah MOM go & ask why Citibank in Changi Bus Park employed so many FTs. Locals can’t do IT jobs har? Yet grandfather asked to have more babies. What a crap!

  22. solaris8899 said

    I believe papa is aware a lot of the big corporations here have large number of Foreign workers. I am doubtful are they really equipped with the necessary skill that is lacking locally.

  23. seah said

    now is not too late to screen them.Get them to take up spore citizenship.Start by putting a expire date on the PR.When date expire ,we can kick out those we give out PR by mistake ,or sumitting forged certificate.Two legs on both side is not fair to us,sporean.or else the rotten one will forever be here

  24. sporeoboriginal said

    I see people saying they feel like a minority.. I am laughing loud as the indians and malays here has been living that for the past decades with no complains. I see people complaining companies having more foreigners and lilttle sporeans and wish gahmen has racial ratio policies on that, i am laughing loud as the malays and indians here did no complain when they open the papers every morning looking for jobs only to find a small portion of industries comes with the “mandarin speaking preferred” (maybe if they put racial quota also good hor, then we wont have all this all chinese staff only culture in sg. Guess what? When happen to u then u feel the pinch hor?)

    i see people complaining bout lots of things.. And the end of the day, please learn to embrace differences : ) and changes. As the minorities here have been living to THAT policy for decades. Having one or two minority in papers in an exclusive sector or industry does not prove any balance in opportunity. Majority of minorities are working like dogs. I have ahbeng frens with jus ‘O’ levels becoming personal bankers and minority frens having the same ‘O’ levels doing oddjobs, despatch work and other lowly service related positions. Ouh i forgot, whos the person giving this employmnt opportunities? HR.. Call any recruitmnt companies and or anyone working in one they will tell u the same thing. They clients wants a majority for the position. Ouh we are balance rite i forgot yes.. In the public sector. Immigration officers, policeman, fireman. Most are minorities cause in the private sectors we have a social illness of hiring the majority only. How can we solve this? Now with the influx of foreigners it gives us a chance to reflect again on national level hiring practices and policies. ; )

    • Wildplanets said

      Spot on. This have been going on for decades, although it has never been publicly acknowledged! It is hard to imagine why we were quiet all this while and just as we see more FTs coming in taking the jobs we blame them for everything to everywhere. It is time we give the job to the one who truly deserve this, not based on colour or religion or gender. If discriminated upon tough manpower laws are there to tackle this..

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