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Lim Hng Kiang: Singapore needs to continue with ‘calibrated’ immigration policy

Posted by temasektimes on September 25, 2012

Despite making earlier promises to ‘moderate’ the inflow of foreigners, it appears that they are still coming in droves as PAP ministers continue to flip-flop on the immigration policies.

Soon after Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong shocked the entire nation by declaring that Singapore has the capacity to accommodate 6 million people, Trade and Industry Minister Lim Hng Kiang follow suit with another reminder that foreign manpower is ‘needed’ to ‘complement’ Singapore’s resident workforce, and support the construction, health and social services sectors in a media release today.

He added foreign manpower is also needed to anchor and build up new sectors in Singapore — such as the biomedical and aerospace industries.

“If you train Singaporeans to fill up the sector before you launch the sector, you may lose the opportunity, and you take too long. So our strategy is to bring the sector in, allow the companies to hire foreign talent, workers, and meanwhile we train Singaporean workers to fill up the jobs,” he said.

In a recent poll done among 30 participants at a forum with PM Lee, 67 percent of them agree that Singaporeans need to continue importing immigrants to boost the country’s flagging birth rate.

It is not known how many of these newcomers will be ‘converted’ to citizens and given voting rights five years later.

52 Responses to “Lim Hng Kiang: Singapore needs to continue with ‘calibrated’ immigration policy”

  1. Poison Ivy said

    The 60.1% will have to reflect on the fact that they will soon become a minority in their own country. The 39.9% will have to repent for the next 5 years for the mistakes made by the 60.1%.

    Mod’s note:

    The figure is actually 76% if you include supporters of the PAP’s ‘B’ team aka the ‘Wayang Party’ which is doing its utmost to maintain the status quo.

    • Concerned Citizen said

      The population of Pinoy now exceeds our true blue Eurasians (Census of Population 2010).

      • True BLUE Sinkie said

        Reason for instant explosion of Pinoys exceeding our true blue eurasians. In Philippines, they keep the duck eggs for 18 days and then heads, legs, bones, feathers, eyes appear.. Instant duck, instant Pinoy Ducks in Singapore. In Singapore it takes a long long time to make a thousand-year-old eggs, much longer than making a balut (Filipino duck eggs)

      • Are Eurasians even true blue?

    • Jeffrey Arthur said

      Singapore inflation edges higher to 5.3% in June
      By Thomas Cho | Posted: 23 July 2012

      SINGAPORE: Inflation in Singapore continues to climb with housing and transport costs topping the increase.

      The consumer price index (CPI), a key gauge of inflation, rose to 5.3 per cent year-on-year in June, according to a statement from the Department of Statistics.

      http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1215138/1/.html

      They tell you that without the foreigners, prices will go up.

      Yet, over the past 10 years or so, we have brought in more than 2 million foreigners and inflation hit its highest last year and doesn’t look like coming down.

      Reducing the number of foreigners will not increase prices but reduce it.

      This is because the increased number of foreigners here have increased demand for housing, transport and other goods and services and this in turn has pushed up the cost of living.

      We need to reduce the number of foreigners here if we want inflation to come down.

      This is basic supply and demand.

      Singapore is just 700 sq km after all.

      At the most we can hold about 3 million people.

      Listen, we don’t have the land for 6 milion people.

      In fact, they are talking about reclaming land to help squeeze in another 1 million foreigners.

      And reclaiming land cost billions of dollars, just like the billions of dollars spent to increase our rail and road network to accommodate the millions of foreigners we brought in earlier.

      Hope the 60% wake up and see that we need to reduce the number of foreigners here and vote for change in 2016.

  2. Concerned Citizen said

    Mr Lim Hng Kiang quoted Rolls Royce as an example of the necessity to import foreign workers. He is picking on one sector as if the aerospace sector is representing ALL sectors in S’pore. Does S’pore need to import foreign workers for other sectors, eg: R&B, retail, call centres, etc?

    • NaBey said

      We need FT in other sector such as: maid, hookers, hostess, expressway tree pruner, GO/STOP signaller, money changer.

    • Edgar Pang said

      “If you train Singaporeans to fill up the sector before you launch the sector, you may lose the opportunity, and you take too long. So our strategy is to bring the sector in, allow the companies to hire foreign talent, workers, and meanwhile we train Singaporean workers to fill up the jobs,” he said.

      —————————————————————————-

      Have they been sleeping all this while? I mean, they are paid millions of dollars to forecast those sectors they wanted to bring in to Singapore and train our people. Yet after more than a decade of bringing in foreigners, are Singaporeans are still not ready to enter those sectors. And foreigners are?

      Seems to me that the governments of those 3rd world countries have more foresight than our clueless politicians. How come our workers are not ready to work in so many sectors? What have they been doing all these years?

      Sleeping? Counting the money in their bank accounts? This is a terrible lapse in judgement and it makes it all the more imperative to elect Singaporeans with foresight and ability in the next GE.

      • To train Singaporeans to fill up one sector is one thing, but find Singaporeans willing to work in some sectors is another.
        How many of us is willing to go into cleaning, construction or domestic help?

    • Naivety said

      Can u tell me which sector(s) are currently not flooded with Foreign Workers & Foreign Thieves in Sinkapor now?

      The only sector that I could think of that is presently not flooded with FTs is the Ministry of Defence (MINDEF) & Armed Forces due to security clearance issues as currently almost all sectors in Sinkieland are already flooded with FTs/Foreign Workers already due to the CECA & FTAs signed-off by Pinky Lee with various parties & multiple countries!!! These agreements would usually benefit the other countries more than towards Sinkapor!

      (I am in IT sector. Singapore productivity is dropping due to huge influx of foreign professionals especially in IT sector which suffers the worst productivity (this data was released by Singapore government).

      By now we should know most of these foreign professionals come due to the FTA/ CECA. In fact, someone exposed on the Internet that CECA was signed between Singapore and India in 2005 and our PM just visited India few weeks ago to renew it. In the CECA, there is a clause which states that both countries are to allow free movement of professionals in IT, Healthcare, accountants, engineers, etc.

      According to an Indian website, India government pressurized Singapore to open more job sectors for the CECA renewal in 2010. The Singapore IT sector employs huge number from India, followed by Filipino professionals and I am not surprised that the IT sector has the worst productivity drop based on the work ethics I have observed. Sadly, some of these professionals get PRs and bring their family and parents over to Singapore.

      As DBS expands its business in India, Singapore will have to take in more Indian professionals).

  3. Pink Panty Loong said

    Bring in the sectors? What sectors have they brought in that Singaporeans can’t filled?! This is all craps & bullshit! They are only interested in changing the voting landscape cos they knew they already lost the heart & support of native Singaporeans!!!

  4. Vic said

    Mr Lim Hng Kiang is one of the very few old timers in the cabinet. He is brilliant, charismatic but preferring a low profile. He doesn’t come out to scold, jeer, put down the oppositions. He keeps a dignified self.

    • you get what you give said

      Are we talking about the same Ngor Hiang who rejected subsidising life-saving mammograms because women, according to this meathead, could afford the breast screening fee if they “saved on one hairdo”.
      What tea you sipping arh?

      • The hairdo is frivolous, compared to the breast screening.

      • you get what you give said

        Let me see if I can put it in simpler terms for you. Breast cancer can happen to men as well where the prognosis is often far grimmer than women’s. For those struggling to make ends meet, they might have to forgo visiting the $10 barber’s for months in order to have a mammogram done if this screening wasn’t gahmen subsidised. The point is mammograms don’t come cheap, unlike haircuts.

    • "Dignified" Minister said

      Vic, this highly praised Minister who was once upon a time a MND Minister in charge of HDB had been “condemned” when he remarked that “opposition” HDB estates will have “low” priority!!!
      Do you think he’s been “dignified” and doesn’t scold, jeer,put down the oppositions???
      Ha…ha…

      • Vic said

        Hey! sorry. I didn’t recall those two events. But, I still think that compared to other mps, ministers, he is the more likeable one, i.e. if you excuse his twice mis-spokes.

    • compatriot said

      He’s playing the ‘Still Waters Runs Deep” and probably quite rightly hes trying to avoid a civil strife,a lull before the storm that is lingering in the air

    • vivian q said

      He has a wry sense of humour too, If you recall him saying women could afford breast cancer screening if they spend less on hairdo.
      His female companions probably gave him the suggestion. What do u think?

  5. sporeoboriginal said

    Thats the gameplan what.. Everybody knows.. They are converting foreigners to ensure win in the next election. Well.. Like i said, human greed for power and money is inevitable.

  6. fpc said

    the call to import more ft is a demonstration that there is a lot of excess capacity in housing showing up soon. honestly, the talk about bring in firms is talking cock because global demand is well. even china is suffering. so how do you get firms to invest in Singapore? and for what? these firms know you don’t have the manpower like lim acknowledges, and if you bring in FT, the real talented ones, you are going to pay a premium to make them come over.

    don’t buy the story lim is saying because he has been saying the same things but we all know that the ft imported into singapore 98% of them don’t make enough to pay tax. what kind of talent is that. the story also doesn’t square with reality: a family of 5, you need to import 800K/5 i.e. 100K families to constitute the extra 800K to make Singapore population to be 6 million. these 100K of talent go nothing to do back home but to come to Singapore? for what? it is a bullshit story again.

  7. Overeseas Singaporean said

    So far this Minister has kept a low profile as he is aware all ministers who have spoken has been whack left and right. May be instructed by PM to say something.

  8. Lim said

    Lim Hng Kiang, if you bring the sector in and allow them to bring in all their cronies that is the end. The second part about training Sporeans to fill in later on will NEVER happen. It will forever be colonised by these foreigners on top and middle management while we Sporeans will be knaves at their mercy in our own country. WIll you ensure and guarantee that Sporeans will eventually fill up the ranks and these foreigners asked to leave? This has happened to the IT industries. the banks etc where Sporeans become contract workers and under the mercy of the Indians, Pinoys. etc who hold the permanent jobs. Mr LIm do you want more of the same thing to happen in biomedical or aerospace sectors?

    • Daft Peasant said

      sooner or later, sinkies will be all working under foreigners in our own country……..getting minor pay and kow-tow-ing to the pappies and foreigners bosses……… i’m one of the person now…….

      WELCOME TO FOREIGAPORE!!!! PARADISE TO FOREIGNERS AND THE RICH……!!!!!!

    • kenneth tan said

      Agree with what u say. He’s talking rubbish from rubbish dump! Tell him to live like a layman singaporean like us for 6 mths den he’ll know what we r suffering. Y don’t he give more foreign talent to parliment !

  9. Jo said

    So what happen to “Singaporean first”? Or still first but from the bottom?

  10. True BLUE Sinkie said

    Lim Hng Kiang, I think you are biased and still having that herd-mentality. You were sent my Ah Loong to chair the meeting and spout rubbish. Ah Loong could have done it himself, but he prefer you take the rap for it. KNNCCB Lim Hng Kiang. Phu Bor Chow Chee Bai,

  11. Nothing but excuses said

    Excuses after excuses, full of excuses.
    Only 60.1 will listen and accept his excuses.

  12. richard said

    LHK u are forcing singaporean against the wall.Since the day the door open for the FT.Most of the company already converting thier own local man in thier company using s-pass,PR etc.

    • Tan Yan Ren said

      we must take notes and collect these records of speeches to end their political career soon at the polls….for propagating these policies affecting BORN and BRED Singaporeans and consolidating their positions earnig MILLIONS!!!!God will help us defeat these evil ….

  13. alvin1a1 said

    There is a danger that PAP might convert ‘new citizen’ votes to support their next election to ensure the survival of their party. With the support of pro-pap Singaporeans and pro-foregin policies foreigners and the rich, Singaporeans will remain at the loosing side.

    Mod’s note:

    And don’t forget the PAP’s ‘B’ team aka the ‘Wayang Party’ has vowed to work with the PAP to keep it in power:

    ‘If the PAP fails to win a majority in the next GE, the Workers Party will form a coalition govt with it.”

    – PAP’s ‘B’ team MP Pritam Singh, May 2011

  14. oldguard said

    WHY??? must our local bred work as contract staff, employers will always take advantage of Papigs foreign trash policies. Cheap labour.

    • Naivety said

      The Pro-Alien Party have signed off many agreements such as FTAs, CECA (especially, the Comprehensive Economic Cooperation Agreement with India in 2005 & its subsequent renewal in 2010) with multiple foreign parties and foreign countries. In the CECA, there is a clause which states that both countries are to allow free movement of professionals in IT, Healthcare, Accountants, Engineers(in whatever sectors & especially the Oil & Gas Sector in SinkieLand), etc etc.

      Obviously, such agreements as established & signed off by Pinky Lee will only serve to benefit the foreign parties & foreign countries more rather than benefitting Sinkapor itself…this is no brainer (maybe due to lack of good negotiation skills by signor)!

      According to an Indian website, India government PRESSURIZED Singapore to open up more job sectors for the CECA renewal in 2010. The Singapore IT sector employs huge number from India, followed by Filipino professionals & I am not surprised that the IT sector has the WORST Productivity drop based on the work ethics I have observed. Sadly, some of these professionals get PRs easily & bring their family and parents over to Singapore.

      The same thing works with the Banking & Financial Industry in SinkieLand with all these FTA agreements being established.

      You will be surprised that these Foreign Professionals do not come cheap contrary to popular beliefs as some were hired previously on expatriate terms/benefits infact (as per ur question that employers will always take advantage of Papigs foreign trash policies. Cheap labour. -Yes, usually only for lower levels & grades of staff not for Vice President level & above appointments) as ultimately, it is those GLCs (Government Linked Companies) that supported these agreements (FTA, CECA, etc) established by the government that hired them.

      GLCs such as SingTel, StarHub, CapitaLand, NOL, SIA, PSA, DBS, etc etc to name only a few…

      You might want to ask how come I’m privy to this information as I was an Ex-“G” Grade staff in one of the GLCs previously under the Temasek Holdings umbrella. “G” grade refers to appointments such as CIO, CFO, CMO, Deputy President, President, Dy CEO & CEO above appointments which is on par with superscale grade of the Civil Service.

  15. mahbok tan said

    Another mini-ster parroting …..!!! Wayang-ing at its best.

    Have he heard of EDB in the late 70’s and early 80’s , this is where all the skill SGporean were born . Who’s idea was it….its the GOVT of the DAY…did any Sgporean complain….NO ! Why….because its the correct thing to do . Back to current situation , did the current mini-ster have such plan…???? Are they being underpaid or overpaid…..???? Aren’t being paid to do all this planning for the betterment of SGporean ????
    Do not give us excuses and/or reasons that can make our heart cry and our bird laugh….!!!

  16. I do recall in an election for UK, the new citizens voted for those who are liberal with them…….

  17. Disillusioned said

    With 5m people now in Singapore we only have 3m true blue Singaporeans representing only 60% of population. If we import another 1m foreigners to make our population 6m, then we will have equal number of 3m local citizens and 3m imported citizens. Given that the 3m imported citizens will mostly vote PAP to repay it for all the resettlement fees, scholarships and jobs on the platter, and readily availabe HDB flats, then it is obvious that PAP will forever retain power even if almost all the local citizens voted opposition.

  18. x said

    Lim Hng Kiang: “If you train Singaporeans to fill up the sector before you launch the sector, you may lose the opportunity, and you take too long. So our strategy is to bring the sector in, allow the companies to hire foreign talent, workers, and meanwhile we train Singaporean workers to fill up the jobs,”

    That’s the whole problem with Singapore’s economy. The PAP has already squandered the wealth of an entire generation by pouring our hard-earned money into the latest fad they read about in Business Week and they want to keep doing this?

    http://www.singapore-window.org/sw02/020518nz.htm

    Since Singaporean growth rates were no higher for all the compulsory investment required of its citizens, it is fair to say that the government effectively dissipated all the forced savings. The questions are how and why.

    The savings were squandered over the years by Singapore’s policy of “industrial targeting.” As Young put it, “Singapore is a victim of its own targeting policies, which are increasingly driving the economy ahead of its learning maturity into the production of goods in which it has lower and lower productivity.” Young found that Singapore “has had one of the most rapid rates of intra-manufacturing structural change in the world economy.” He also found that, as a consequence, “Singapore had one of the lowest returns to physical capital in the world. The days in which Singapore can continue to sustain accumulation driven growth are clearly numbered.”

  19. hihihi said

    Their salaries need to be calibrated first.

  20. Duncan said

    Heard the papzis are bring a total of 900,00 trashes into this country at the end of ths 2012. Anyone can confirm this new ?

  21. Singapuraboi said

    So typical of our govt. when thu need something now, they actually needed it yesterday. Civil servants always sit on the butts n drag their feet on everything. A friend wasted money and time the last time when we had plans to turn Singapore into a live sciences and research center. Many people signed up for the degree courses offered in the local unis only to discover after graduation that there were no jobs for them as they have hired ready people from overseas cos they could not wait for the locals to graduate. Our govt is behaving like a spoilt brat in that when they want something, they want it right away. My poor friend can’t find employment with his very specialized degree. He is now giving tuition.

  22. Singapuraboi said

    So typical of our govt. when thu need something now, they actually needed it yesterday. Civil servants always sit on the butts n drag their feet on everything. A friend wasted money and time the last time when we had plans to turn Singapore into a live sciences and research center. Many people signed up for the degree courses offered in the local unis only to discover after graduation that there were no jobs for them as they have hired ready people from overseas cos they could not wait for the locals to graduate. Our govt is behaving like a spoilt brat in that when they want something, they want it right away.

  23. It’s alright 2 import FTs 2 fill specific sectors but they must not b made citizens except 4 those with very specialised skills that every developing country wld want. By giving citizenship status en masse, the ruling PAP is betraying Sinkieland and the ppl. They shd be stopped in their tracks b4 it’s too late for all sinkies 2 turn things around. PAPie Youth for one shd take up the cudgels for the ppl to stop the rot in the govt’s marginalisation of its own citizens.

  24. Tan Yan Ren said

    I told you they are justifying their attempts to “KILL ” Singaporeans’ voices of discontent at all cost like increasing the population beyond 6 million to gain loyaltyt votes from the IMPORTS to silence Singaporeans at the elections….I am gathering facts to bring down any opposition to Singaporeans’ FIRST policy at all cost at the elections and anyone gets in the way will be defeated at the polls …a strategy…to fight back these evil power crazy people at our expense!!!!May GOD assist us to defeat these evil !!!!!

  25. bob said

    Quote “WE THE PEOPLE, do NOT have to accept ANYTHING – we TELL YOU WHAT WE WANT and you do it – you are a public servant – WE are the public, and YOU are the servant – you serve us!”

    • Julie Ong said

      Hello, Bob.

      Thanks. You’ve actually said what I’ve repeated ad nauseam that the government is our servant not master. Isn’t it surprising then that 60 percent of the voting citizens still prefer the arrogant, interfering and lately also incompetent PAP?

      I believe that contrary to what the government has led us to believe we are
      actually not that wealthy a country. Yes, we have amassed wealth during the boom years, but these have to a certain extent been frittered away via
      bad speculative investments which have resulted in losses of billions of dollars. Imagine money to the equivalent to your telephone numbers!

      We must stop listening to this government now. In fact, never again!
      The main problem is that the PAP is in power for far too long (about 50 years or thereabouts). Mr Lee Kuan Yew, the most prominent and dominant of our prime ministers is still talking policies….but alas…….bad ones that’ll continue to hit and hurt the people. Do stand up and fight.
      Fear not. We are many. They are few. Keep with the incessant complaints
      and discuss the day to day issues that impact on our lives. We’ll turn to one another for help and support. It’s People’s Power! This is not a dream.
      It will be a pleasant reality……if WE really want it!

      Sometimes, in my quiet moments I mused over the scenario of me talking to my fellow Singaporeans. Yes, I’d turn on the charm, oratory and all things else…..but…….would there be true believers? By the way, the theme is really simple and easy to understand. It is the people, the people
      and the people!

      So, what say you, people?i

      • Julie Ong said

        Oops!

        Looks like I’ve just misspoken! As an afterthought I think it is most correct and ideal that our talented young men and women step forward to take on the leadership of the nation. I should be in the background making the food and drinks to sustain/support the cause. No point me being in the spotlight as it’ll only diminished the cause of ‘Towards A Better Singapore Now and Tomorrow ‘. Besides, I’m not the type who likes to big note myself. I really believe in our younger citizens. What I do not know is whether they will step up to the rallying cry for Leadership.

        Hopefully, we’ll find out soon enough before General Election 2016.

    • You are beginning to sound like some feudal overlord when you are just a ordinary citizen

    • Do you think they still want to serve you if you demand it from them?

      • Julie Ong said

        Hi, Mr Goh Tong Seng.

        I’m never a believer in using force. Persuasion, education or simply just doing it myself if I meet stiff resistance. From experience I can tell you that this often works. Lead by example.

        I’d prefer encouragement/motivation over coercion anytime.

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